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Recent Events: The Pope's interview with Peter Seewald



Father Barron offers his commentary on the recent media coverage surrounding Pope Benedict XVI's comments on condoms in his interview with Peter Seewald. The interview was recently published as a book entitled, Light of the World. Read Father Barron's explanation here.

One of the stupidest and most dispiriting expressions of the media culture that I have ever encountered is the “coverage” of Pope Benedict’s recently-published interview entitled Light of the World. I can’t really say that I was surprised. I had received an advance copy of the book and had prepared a piece on it when I met a woman involved in organizing the publicity for its release. I said, “they’re going to talk about condoms.” She said, but it’s such a minor theme and it’s mentioned on, like, a quarter of a page at the end of one chapter.” I replied, “they’re going to talk about condoms.” Sure enough, prompted by a leak by L’Osservatore Romano (that’s a story for another day), the leading news organizations screamed about “changes in the church’s teaching” and “the Pope allowing the use of condoms” and “a revolution in Catholic theology.”

Of course, even the most cursory reading of the text and context of the Pope’s remarks would reveal that nothing of the kind was on offer. Benedict remarked that a male prostitute’s willingness to use a condom would signal a first step, on his part, toward a more mature and responsible moral attitude. Did this imply that the Pope was giving the green light to condom use? Absolutely not. Dr. Janet Smith, a respected Catholic moral theologian, provided an apt comparison. A bank robber would indeed be demonstrating a heightened moral consciousness should he resolve to pull off his next robbery using a gun with no bullets. But applauding such a move, she argues, would hardly be tantamount to “permitting” or “condoning” armed robbery.

But the gross misunderstanding of the Pope’s words is actually not the major problem. The biggest difficulty is the obsession with sexual issues which bedevils, not only the secular media, but too many within the church itself, both on the left and the right. About ten years ago, the New York Times Magazine ran a story on the new generation of seminarians. It demonstrated their vigor, their enthusiastic orthodoxy, and their eagerness to preach the Gospel. But when the reporter asked one young man, soon to be ordained to the priesthood, what topic he especially wanted to proclaim from the pulpit, he responded, “I want people to stop masturbating!” Now say what you want about the morality of masturbation, I think that you’d be hard pressed to read the Gospel of Matthew or Paul to the Romans or the book of Revelation or the book of the prophet Isaiah and conclude that the central point is “don’t masturbate.”

Though you’d never guess it from most discussions in the media (or many in the church), the central point is grace and divine friendship. On the Biblical reading, the spiritual thing always begins with grace—the offer of the divine life—and grace leads to joyful transformation. It doesn’t commence with moralizing. In his opening speech in the Gospel of Mark, Jesus says, “The Kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe the Good News.” Notice that the kingdom—the inbreaking of God’s love—comes first and the call to moral conversion follows. In his encounter with the woman at the well, Jesus did not immediately call the woman to change her immoral ways; rather, he invited her into a relationship with him. Then, in the warmth and light provided by that friendship, she was ready to listen and to change. Joyfully, she set down her bucket (symbolic of her addictive patterns of life) and went into the town to proclaim the one “who told her everything she’d ever done.” When the spiritual project begins with moralizing, it ends in fruitless guilt and resentment. When it begins with grace, it ends in enthusiastic conversion.

The Pope understands this dynamic perfectly—which is precisely why the bulk of his interview is about God and God’s offer of love. What particularly vexes Benedict XVI is that many in the West have either denied or conveniently forgotten about God. And this has conduced, he sees, to deep alienation, isolation, and spiritual drift—even in the midst of much material wealth. When God is brought back to the center of our concern, when we enter into friendship with God, then spontaneously we want to change; we want to live lives of radical love. And this is where the moral teaching of the church—including and especially its sexual teaching—comes in. Everything that the church says about human sexuality is designed to conduct people along a path of ever greater self-gift—in response to the God who has given himself to them. But abstracted from grace, the sexual teaching of the church will seem to most, almost certainly, as fussy, puritanical moralizing.

And this is why it is so tragic that Benedict’s wide-ranging, smart, and spiritually alert book is reduced to the question of condom use. For the Pope, as for the mainstream of the Catholic tradition, what matters—first and last—is the gift that God gives. Those who have received that gift want to learn how they can become, in turn, more and more conformed to love.

Father Barron's commentary was also featured on the Chicago Tribune's Seeker Blog. Read it here

Posted: 11/24/2010 6:19:42 PM by Word On Fire | with 7 comments
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tlh
Interesting take on the woman at the well, Father. I've never encountered that perspective before. I always thought that she and her co-villagers were, perhaps, ancestor worshippers or something. I suppose I was completely off base!
11/25/2010 3:42:22 AM
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Robert Callino
"If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him and we will come to him and make our home with him (John 14:23)" The rules are important; they are a way to God. When we realize that we cannot keep them without the help of Jesus, then we are drawn into friendship with him. It worked for me this way. I think St. Paul also realized this. That's why the Church calls it moral theology.
11/25/2010 9:29:24 AM
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Ana
Very nice Father. I'm so happy that you pointed out the obvious -- yet often missed point about God, which is GOD IS LOVE.

I would like to add one point to the discussion. Reading the Pope's comments as they were intended still offers what I see as a blessing to the world. As sinners we often feel we are not good enough for God. And the acceptance we receive through Jesus' loving friendship where he comes to us where we ARE is like a soothing balm to our wounded souls. He doesn't wait for us to be good enough, His Merciful love gives us acceptance and through it we are transformed.

I perceived the Pope's comments on as a validation of where many people are. He showed that he understood people's need to do *something* right. We are GOOD as God created us and we were wired to seek HIM, our nature is to do Good and avoid evil. When a person is caught up in the filth of their lives, a ray of hope does filter through their turning of the mind to act more responsibly. It may surprise some to believe that even certain psychological/emotional wounds actually make it hard for some to even bother trying to use "protection". Many individuals show irresponsible condom use related to childhood sex abuse, etc. So it's not even that easy for them to *just* use a condom (the sexual hero of the secular world)

I think the Pope's comments though misunderstood, have allowed a softening of the world's heart and an openness to Catholicism which we hadn't seen before.

I LOVE it when God allows an evil (misunderstanding the Pope's words) so that a greater good can be accomplished (the gathering of his sheep and softening of their hearts)

As a Church we need to use this opportunity and welcome from the world to acknowledge and validate where they are coming from and offer Jesus' loving friendship and offer for salvation.
11/25/2010 10:19:20 AM
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Julie Brown
Terrific, important insights! The approach in evangelization must be delicate - not wimpy, but individualized, reasonable AND intellectually/emotionally enticing. Truth must be the grounding of beauty, but the beauty of the message is essential, and it's the first thing that people notice. Thank you, Fr. Barron!
11/26/2010 2:40:39 AM
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Carole
I certainly concur w/your sentiments; however might not it be good to consider that even in this
"abuse" or "misuse" of the Holy Father's words and intention, God has given grace. Initially, I was dismayed, I admit, that this particular subject "ruled the day", as it were, regarding all else in the new book w/insights from Pope Benedict XVI. Then suddenly I saw it as an opportunity to engage w/the whole of society on the subject and usage of condoms. The door has been opened, as it were, to enlighten the world, secular and even Christianity itself, by bringing
the whole subject into the context of TRUTH of meaningfulness of this teaching by the Catholic Church perhaps as never before. Reality and Faith are akin and every human needs to take a step forward in understanding both. God Who created man surely can lead us to this awareness. Thanks be to Him for His Vicar, Pope Benedict XVI who represents Him so profoundly.
11/27/2010 1:19:44 PM
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Allen
Thank you Fr Barron!! I appreciate your level headed response to this media made up issue. Yet again the media wishes to see the fall of God so that sinners everywhere may justify their sickness. In my own passionate manner I would have blasted the reports who made this purposeful blunder. You have showed charity. Thank you. --Allen, friend of Eric & jeff of DCMissioin
11/28/2010 1:47:05 AM
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Carole
!-29-10: See Catholic News Service this date re Cardinal Rodiguez' comments on this subject ... as a "teachable moment". I rest my case.
11/29/2010 2:59:03 PM
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